This one is for PZ Myers

[pyesetz]

According to a recent online poll by PollingPoint, over half of all people who go to church frequently think President Bush's moral values are just like theirs.  This is the best evidence I've ever seen for why organized religions should be banned!

*Grumble* Why can't PollingPoint use decent permalink URL's for their results?  And why don't they say *anything* about how recent the "recent polls" are?
Edit: Duh!  The footnote at the bottom says "February 2005 to July 2005".  Thanks, PZ!

Comments

[pyesetz]

They avoid defining his values by asking "are his values the same as yours?"  Even after everything that's happened, frequent church-goers still say "yes".

I dislike Bush, and have since his Fascist "you're with us or you're a terrorist" comment, but what I really hate are the people who claim to be Americans but still support Bush, who is the most unpatriotic anti-American president ever.  Nixon, for all his faults, was still a patriot.  Bush Sr., though a closet Fascist, did not rule as a Fascist because he had a sense of propriety that his son clearly lacks.

It shouldn't be surprising that Bush is incompetent and is losing all his wars.  That's how Fascism always works.  It's all about using nationalism as a cover for looting.

[xolo.livejournal.com]

The "with us or against us" policy was, I think, one of the wisest and most judicious foreign policy initiatives I've seen in my life. If our client states aren't prepared to act in our best interests, then there *should* be adverse consequences for them to bear. The fundamental problem was that Bush wasn't prepared to follow through on it. He cut special deals for Pakistan, he cut special deals for the Saudis, and for others as well. He thinks, I believe, that if he treats the barbarians as equals, they'll respond with gratitude, instead of trying to take advantage of the situation.


I don't think it arises so much from a deficit of patriotism, as from a misguided optimism. He does honestly believe that he can make friends of these people. He doesn't understand that he's being taken advantage of. Much like Carter, the man has turned out to be a well-meaning fool.