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Welcome to my journal,
danruk! Someday soon I hope to have something here that's worth reading. For those of you who think offers of friendship should be rescinded if not accepted within one week, know that Danruk waited several months after I friended him before electing to reciprocate. Perhaps someday I will be living in his province and can invite him over for a furmeet.
I'd also like to extend a Darmok and Gilead at Tenegra to my new friend
ozarque. Of course, I realize that her reciprocal LJ friendship is just a courtesy (her FRIENDS and FRIEND-OF lists are almost identical) and does not indicate any serious interest in reading my journal, but still she helped me reach 28 LJ mutual friends! And I've commented on her journal and not been banned yet!
Recently I discovered that the New Jersey Furs have been holding biweekly furmeets at a bowling alley, just 1½ miles from my house, for over a year! So I went. It was a small group this week: just two regulars showed up. I made it a threesome, which some say is the minimum required in order to deserve the name "furmeet". So now I get to send out electronic hugs to my new friend
shy_matsi (Oooh! Another furvert on my friends list! What will the neighbors think?) and also to
maximous (I hope you move out of my town as quickly as possible! [inside joke]).
So we played three games of bowling. Each fur won one game. Since everyfur present was an IT type, there were some geeky comments. In one game a certain someone (not me!) managed to knock down only one pin with each of his first two balls. So of course the computerized scoring system showed
for the frame. The joke was that the score should be ten because 1+1=10 in binary. Yeah, it was lame, but it was furry!
According to this quiz, my geek score is 1055, which puts me in the category of "Jedi master". I think that's pretty good, considering that I scored myself rather conservatively (giving myself points only for the major general-purpose computer programming languages, withholding points for "Dr. Who" and "Star Trek" which I no longer watch regularly, etc.)
Okay, now the disgusting perverted stuff. Recently I've *edit* received some emails and read some fur's journals that seem to display a knee-jerk "kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" attitude toward pedophiliacs. I think the paw of tolerance can and should be extended to some pedos. To avoid getting LiveJournal shut down by the Thought Police, I've stored the actual text of my essay elsewhere (I would put it on an offshore server if I had access to one):
(In defense of pedophilia).
I don't have any personal experience with pedophilia, but (in typical bleeding-heart liberal form) that doesn't stop me from defending it! If you actually know something about this stuff, please excuse my inaccuracies.
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Recently I discovered that the New Jersey Furs have been holding biweekly furmeets at a bowling alley, just 1½ miles from my house, for over a year! So I went. It was a small group this week: just two regulars showed up. I made it a threesome, which some say is the minimum required in order to deserve the name "furmeet". So now I get to send out electronic hugs to my new friend
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So we played three games of bowling. Each fur won one game. Since everyfur present was an IT type, there were some geeky comments. In one game a certain someone (not me!) managed to knock down only one pin with each of his first two balls. So of course the computerized scoring system showed
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According to this quiz, my geek score is 1055, which puts me in the category of "Jedi master". I think that's pretty good, considering that I scored myself rather conservatively (giving myself points only for the major general-purpose computer programming languages, withholding points for "Dr. Who" and "Star Trek" which I no longer watch regularly, etc.)
Okay, now the disgusting perverted stuff. Recently I've *edit* received some emails and read some fur's journals that seem to display a knee-jerk "kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" attitude toward pedophiliacs. I think the paw of tolerance can and should be extended to some pedos. To avoid getting LiveJournal shut down by the Thought Police, I've stored the actual text of my essay elsewhere (I would put it on an offshore server if I had access to one):
(In defense of pedophilia).
I don't have any personal experience with pedophilia, but (in typical bleeding-heart liberal form) that doesn't stop me from defending it! If you actually know something about this stuff, please excuse my inaccuracies.
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Date: 2004-10-14 09:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-14 10:55 pm (UTC)Well, I don't really know what I'm talking about, so my description of what kind of person becomes a pedophile is overly simplistic -- like my extremely-lame description of why people become zoophiles. Really, the whole essay is simplistic; it appears to be a defense of pedophilia, but has no solid arguments.
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Date: 2004-10-14 10:04 pm (UTC)Oh come on, that's going a bit far. I've certainly never said anything like that. For my part I don't want anyone harmed. And I do understand something of the underlying psychology behind pedophilia. But I do have an issue with it because I know people who have been hurt by it. So the whole thing triggered deep seated protective emotions.
Maybe I over-reacted. But I never confronted anyone, I put my comments behind a protected entry specifically so it wouldn't cause trouble, and I certainly never called for anyone to be harmed in any way.
And I'm posting anonymously because the original comment was friends only and I'd rather not have things traced back because, believe it or not, I don't want to cause any trouble for this person.
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Date: 2004-10-14 10:50 pm (UTC)I lied when I said the essay was in response only to LiveJournal (I'll edit the post after sending this comment). It was also in response to a private email I got from one of my friends (who apparently doesn't have an LJ and certainly didn't see your words) in which he said he disowned one of my other friends after discovering some pedo-porn in the latter's computer. It didn't seem to matter to this emailer whether actual children were harmed. And he's planning to vote for Bush...
Still, I suppose the "kill 'em all" thing is over the top. I just adore exaggeration!
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Date: 2004-10-14 11:14 pm (UTC)Yeah, normally I wouldn't do this but it was never my intention to point this person out or bring harm to them. If I'd wanted to do that I'd have posted their name.
I lied when I said the essay was in response only to LiveJournal (I'll edit the post after sending this comment)...
Ah, I see. Sorry if I got defensive in my earlier post, then. And if this person was actually advocating harm against someone then I can certainly understand your post a little better. I've done a tiny bit of reading on the subject, enough to know that the feelings, at least, are not always something someone makes a conscious choice about. Not that this stops it from making me uncomfortable but hurting someone is not the solution.
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Date: 2004-10-15 09:55 pm (UTC)So far I've attended two furmeets and written weird shit after each of them. Maybe it'll stop happening if I start attending them regularly. But it really does bother me when furs spit on pedophiles because their dirty pictures are more disgusting than ours. Every fetish is disgusting in its own way; the issue should be whether you hurt others with yours. Perhaps I should quote Niemöller here.
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Date: 2004-10-14 10:38 pm (UTC)As best as I can tell, porn does encourage certain types of people, yet doesn't seem to have any effect on most. But even that statement is not something I can really back up due to the lack of impartiality in what information is out there. Hence, I'm not sure what to make of any arguement that bases itself on whether porn encourages others or not.
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Date: 2004-10-14 10:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-15 05:23 am (UTC)Thank you for the greeting to your LJ. yes, I admit it did take me some time to add you back as a friend, even though you were on my 'friends' list for a good while.
I'm afraid this is due largely to the fact that I tend to be very lazy, very clueless, very confused, and sometimes all those things and some more.
In fact, I'm wholly embarassed at the moment. I got around to adding you, partially because I thought "Oh yeah, I know who that is and how I know them now!..." And I just concluded by reading a few snippets of this entry...
That I'm wholly wrong. I don't know anything of the sort.
Please, please, remind me how I know you, who you are, who our 'common friends' may be and what prompted the LJ friending in the first place.
Humbly embarassed,
Matt/Danruk
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Date: 2004-10-15 10:20 pm (UTC)Please, please, remind me how I know you, who you are, who our 'common friends' may be and what prompted the LJ friending in the first place.
You don't know me. We've probably never met, although we *almost* met at AC'04, but I arrived too late. Perhaps I bumped into you on the street in Plymouth MA, although I've been there only two or three times (about half my life so far has been spent in the Metro Boston area). I visited Kingston ON in 2002, but not Mississauga (and where's Mr. Sauga?). I considered going to Canada's Wonderland on the way home that time, but ended up going to Hersheypark instead so I wouldn't have to drive all the way around Lake Ontario. One of the most surprising things about Canada I learned on that trip was how many Canucks are employed in call centers.
I don't remember in which FOAF's journal I originally noticed you; perhaps it was Cnipur's, which I had clicked to from some other FOAF's journal (although Cnipur and I have had some very short conversations on alt.lifestyle.furry). I thought your comment (wherever it was) seemed very uxorious, which is unusual for furry writing, so I went looking through your journal, and found what seemed like useful tidbits for my never-ending quest to drag my wife, kicking and screaming, into the Fandom.
I am what I am, a jumbled mishmash of quirks and traits. I'm sorry that's not very helpful, but what other furry answer is there? I've been trying to emigrate to Canada since shortly after you succeeded, but the FBI has been most unaccommodating--seemingly due to bureaucratic stupidity and not because they actually have any opinion on me as an individual.
If you don't like my journal, please feel free to unfriend it. I try to make each post as different from the others as possible, but many of them are just plain weird and rather too many of them exhibit excessive quantities of Geek Pride.
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